Ep. 275: Bigfoot in Eastern Kentucky: Searching for the Unknown

Brandon: Welcome back to Tinfoil Tells, I'm your host Brandon. Tonight we're joined by my guest Buddy. Buddy, thanks for coming out here and talking with me. No problem. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself? Well, I kind of started getting into this paranormal stuff and all this Bigfoot stuff. And just anything that's paranormal or out of the ordinary. I've really learned how to open myself up and try to... And since I've done that, since I've opened my mind, it seems like everything that a lot of people would just blow off. I'm like, there's something going on here. And I try to investigate it a little bit. And I've had some actually... I had a really close encounter with something coming home one morning. And I'll tell you a little bit about that later. Is this something that has drawn your fascination for most of your life? I know you said in the last few years or whatever, but is this something that you were interested in from a younger age or just because you're more interested in now having an experience? Well, I ran up on something in the woods when I was about 11, 12 years old maybe. And I guess it would be what a lot of people would call Bigfoot. And I was like 50 yards from this thing and I had two other guys with me. Well, they took off. But I wanted to... I turned around and I wanted to look just for a second. And I'm telling you what, ever since that day, I've wanted to see it again. And I've just had a fascination with this stuff and anything paranormal. And it just... I don't know. It's just like, I don't know. I get a thrill out of it, you know? I think there's something out there that, like when someone gets their mind open to these things or something out there that could be, it makes you more interested in it because you want to know what it is. At least in my own experience or whatever, I always want to find the answers to what's actually out there. Oh, yeah, definitely. Me too. Well, if you would like to go into detail about what happened, I'd love to hear about it. Well, as far as like the UFO or whatever, I had a really close encounter with something one morning. I took my daughter to work. And I was coming back from... I live in Eastern Kentucky. And I was coming back from taking her to work middle of the day. Well, not middle of the day, but at 9 a.m. And I'm coming up this hill, and I saw something that looked like an orb. And I thought, you know, I thought it was one of those balls that hang on the power line. And as I started getting closer to it, I thought, well, one, it's too big for that. And two, there's no power lines. So when I get up to this thing, and I'm looking at it, and I said, I want to pull over and take a picture or whatever. So I started to pull over. When I wanted to pull over, I couldn't. I couldn't pull over. I couldn't do anything but drive. I couldn't stop. I couldn't slow down. It's like I didn't have control over my body. But I'm looking out the window, and I'm looking at this thing, and it's hovering just over the treetops. And, you know, that is what... I don't know. It's like just in that moment, I saw the world almost like in super HD. You know what I'm saying? That was the weirdest thing I've ever encountered in my life. And ever since then, not only do I look to the woods, I look to the sky, because I saw a lot of stuff in the sky that I couldn't explain to you. Now, what do you think this UFO actually was? I don't know. Do you think it was something from here, or do you think it was something from somewhere else? It wasn't nothing from here, because it was just, I mean, just shiny. It was almost like you could see a reflection. It wasn't a drone. It couldn't have been a drone, because, I mean, this thing was just a silver orb about the size of a Volkswagen just over the treetops. Okay. And if it was something from here, why couldn't I stop? Why couldn't I pull over and take a picture of it? Now, when you saw this, how many years ago was this? This was about three years ago. Okay, so not too long ago. Not too long ago. You said it was like shiny-looking. Did it have an luminescence to itself, or was it just reflective? It actually had an luminescence. Where it was in the middle of the day, it just blew me away. I couldn't believe I was seeing what I was seeing. What type of color was it? Just metallic? Yeah. I know a lot of people have seen these strange metallic round shapes. Was this, like, did it have a definitive shape that you could tell, or just not? It was just round, perfect round. I interviewed someone a few years ago, and they saw a really large round metallic object. Again, I don't know of anything that we have that's round other than like a balloon or something, but obviously that wouldn't be what a lot of these people are seeing. Right. The brown ones are weird. I've seen orange ones, like orange glowing lights in the sky myself, so I don't know. Yeah. That was something else I was going to tell you about. I sat and watched. There were six of them. They were orange, like you said, orange black orbs in the sky. They would go across the sky, and they would disappear. Then they would reappear somewhere else. I was in Central Kentucky, and what was weird was there was two helicopters that was hovering on each side watching, like they were watching. I thought that was weird too, and I see that a lot. I see those a lot. I always wonder exactly what could be causing the orange, like, is it like a fireball, or is it more or less like just a light? It's one of those things that makes me wonder because there's so many different possibilities with it. What I was seeing was not moving very fast, and they were going all different directions. Yeah. A lot of people have talked about some of these things, they fade in and out, and they move in sequences, and I was like, well, a lot of people try and write it off as either like a flare or some people say it's like, not Stargate, but Starlink. Some of those things. I was like, but you can tell the difference between a flare or some of these things. It did look like a flare, and I honestly think it may have been an actual flare, but what made the flare, I have no idea. Right, yeah, same here. But, I mean, I watch this stuff at least two or three times a week, and some days I won't see anything, and then some nights it'll be really active, and I'll see, you know, I've pretty much taught myself to tell the difference in satellites or shooting stars, you might call it, or, but now these lights that just, and I saw, man, there was one day I was watching and we got like a there was like a little hillside, I guess about 45 degrees, and I was laid back on the hillside just laying there watching, you know, because I love to watch the sky. And this thing lit up over top of me, and it went three times, didn't move, and it was in the shape of a donut, no light in the middle. It done this three times, faded in, faded out, not just an on-off, faded in and out. It done this three times, it paused about five seconds, done it three times again in the same spot, and I never saw it again. There was one that we had saw a few years ago, and it was out back, and it was, like, stayed in the same exact position for several minutes, and then it slowly moved north, like, I say north, but it moved up, and then just slightly over, and then disappeared. It stayed stationary for at least five to ten minutes before it moved just a little bit, then just decided to disappear. Yeah, I've watched stuff like that. I've actually got a video of something like that. We took a video one night, me and some, me and a friend of mine did, because I told him, I said, you gotta go with me, man, because I said, you're not believing a word I'm saying. Well, he believes saying, well, he believes me now. So yeah. Now have you seen anything more like the, the globe, the orb that you, the metallic orbs and the round orb since then, or just did I sent you a picture of, of when I think once, I think it was you, I sent the picture to where it was coming out of the cloud. There was like a, it was, it looked like an orb that had popped out of cloud. I was at work and I came outside and we were watching this thing pop in and out of this cloud. And I'm like, what in the world, you know? So we took pictures of it. They were several of us out there. We watched it and don't look like it has wings. So I don't know what it is. Yeah. I'm trying to go back through and see if I can have a photo. Yeah, you did. I got a picture of it here. It does stand out pretty bright compared to everything else. Yeah. And I mean, it was going, it was going in and out of this big cloud beside of it. It was just the weirdest thing. So about two or three weeks ago, I was at work and we saw something. There was two of them and they were, I think they were airplanes, to be honest. They looked like planes or maybe they were drones. I don't know, but they were flying in unison. They went in one direction and they turn around and went the other direction. They were just lights, but I think they were there, but this was during the day. So I don't know why I could see the lights, but I couldn't actually see the craft. But me and my coworker were in a vehicle together at the job site. We were watching it and then once they flew like towards the east and they took a, went up through the clouds and then all of a sudden they came out the other side of a cloud and they went up even further than they kept going and turn around, went back the direction they came from. And then we'd never seen them anymore. Again, it could have been like fighter jets higher up that we couldn't tell, but they looked like lights and this is during broad daylight. So again, I don't know why we didn't see the airplane. But again, who knows, I know they were high enough in the clouds because we seen them go into the cloud. Oh yeah. I've saw stuff like that. Yeah. There's a lot of weird things out there that just make you wonder. And I think a lot more people have been noticing it. And obviously we're living now in this age of disclosure, where they're starting to slowly but surely mention things that a lot of us have kind of already known about, because if you've been diving into this type of topics for so many years, you're kind of more open to it. But again, I don't know how to take a lot of that. I don't either, but it just, I just, I love it. And the more, the more I do it, the more I want to know. And I keep studying it. And I take, you know, it's like when I do these videos and stuff and because I, I try to do videos a lot of times on the weekends and we'll go out in the middle of the woods and I'll set up and do a live video. Well, I mean that's okay. And everybody, you know, everybody likes it when we get on there and chat, but that's actually, you know, I'm recording this and that's actually like research for me because if I hear something, I can go back on my spectrum analyzer or I can go back on something and I can study it and I can say, well, that's not normal, you know. Right. I've been starting to do a lot more things too of trying to find more like actual evidence and going out and investigating things of my own, just because it's never been anything I've done before. I've went out and done some things here or there, but it's not anything I've ever taken seriously enough to actually try and find evidence. But now that's one of the things I'm starting to do with this documentary and now I'm doing this new little random YouTube series of going out and doing investigations. So yeah, it's, I don't want to say it's fun because there's a lot of work to it. A lot of people don't understand like if I have to go through all the audio and all the video and all that other stuff. So it's actually pretty time consuming. Now believe me, I know I do the same thing now and it, it looks like I'm sitting out here having fun, which, which I am, but then I've got to go, it takes a day, not sometimes two days to go through everything. Right. Is there anything else that you've experienced over the years that you would want to talk about? Well, now we've experienced a lot of paranormal like ghosts and stuff because I've really, like I said, you know, I've, I've opened myself up to where if like, if you go into a house, they say, somebody say it's haunted and somebody comes out and says, man, man, that house ain't haunted. Well, man, you need to open up because you can go in there and you can have an open mind to it and you'll see or hear stuff that other people don't see. I think. So me and my daughter, we get invited to go into an old old gym one time and this gym, they say the basement was haunted. So they asked us if we wouldn't care, we could go down and do a ghost hunt. You know, we wanted to, sure. You know, we jumped all over it. So we get down there. And the first thing we did, we get to the bottom of the steps and we hit a spot and I'm telling you what, I bet it was 15, 20 degrees difference, just in one spot. And before I could say anything, I spoke and I said, if there's anything here, let us know. And there was a piece of ductwork laying on the shelf behind me and I've got a video, sorry. And, uh, and the ductwork just jumped off the shelf, hit me in the back and fell on the floor. And I turned around, looked at my daughter and I said, are you ready? And when I said that, she was already halfway to a couple of steps. So, but yeah, that was, uh, that was pretty, pretty neat. There is a lot of things when it comes to the paranormal aspects that I'm very leery about because we actually, my friend who helps me, we're starting to do this stuff. Like he does my music and everything. We went out last night to a specific location and for whatever reason, my spirit box was not working. The batteries were drained, but I checked it at home and it was fine. So I'm not going to say they were drained by something, but it is, it's strange. And, but when we got out there, I have my one meter that can light up if something's like manifest the other thing, like electromagnetic fields, it can change the temperatures or stuff around it. And there's also a voice recorder, which I have not went through any of the audio of that yet, but the lights on the one meter were working bad. Like they would light up if I'd asked to get something. And all of a sudden we'd sit there for a few minutes, nothing happened. When I say something that would light up like, almost like with a response. Well, this thing that we asked if it was a human at one time, it didn't respond, but we asked if it was a non-human and it responded with yes. So I'm like, what are we communicating when you're out in these? Yeah. Yeah. Really? Like if it's not a human spirit or it's not didn't used to be a human, then what did it used to be or what is it like? And that's why I started to get leery. I'm like, uh, what are we communicating with here? Yeah. Well, another thing about paranormal, you know, like ghost or whatever like that, your, your mind, your mind can play tricks on you too and make you, you know, and that's something that you really got to watch because, you know, you just can't take any sound and say, yep, that was it. You know, you can't, you can't do that. And I like to see, I like to see evidence. I like to see hard evidence. You know what I'm saying? That's how I am too. I don't rule anything that I will ever put out. I'm not going to say as conclusively evidence of anything, unless I 100% know for a fact that it was something else. Like I'm going to put it out there, but like, this is what was going on was something communicating with us. I have no idea, but it's ironic that these lights were going off when we asked specific questions. Yeah. It's all, it's all up for interpretation of how someone wants to view it. Like some people think it's all proof. And I'm like, I still remain skeptical a lot of the time. I do too. I'm the same way. Now my wife and let's see, there was something else. Yeah. My wife and daughter, I was going to work one day and I was going to my driveway. I've got a long driveway that goes through the woods pretty much. And there's a big field off to the right. Well, up behind my house, I've got some rock mounds. I've got six, I've got seven rock mounds. There's six in a horseshoe shape and there's one in the middle. And I've done a video and I've done a video up there one day and some guy messaged me and he said, did you disturb anything? And I said, no. And he said, then don't, because if you do, God help you. Well, you know, he kind of freaked me out a little bit. So I said, well, I won't go back up around them for a little bit, you know, till I find out more about it. I don't know if it's a burial ground or what. So like the next day after I'd done that, I was going down my driveway and I get back home and my wife said, did you see that thing in the field? And I said, no, I didn't see anything in the field. He said, you drove right by it. She said, when it came up, it came up the road. There's like an old logging road. It came up the logging road and it was on two feet and it was really tall, skinny, no hair, nothing. Said it looked like a person. And it came and it walked across the field and my daughter came out. And when my daughter came out, she shut the door. And when she shut the door, this thing dropped down on all fours and it ran through the bushes over the hill like a dog. So now that kind of, that kind of freaked me out this little bit because you know, that's, that's something I don't even want to think about. It sounds like the hell crawler stories that I've heard. Yes, I know exactly. And I said, that's something I don't want to mess with that, you know? Yeah. I know the whole creepypasta world made these creatures up called rakes or whatever, but I think those were based off of these other entities or these other their entities or these other creatures that people have seen, which even back in the 1950s, there was reports of the Dover demon and it was similar in shape. Had as like, it was a gray, almost like the old depictions of what people say aliens look like the big bulbous head and the gray body or whatever, but it was also on all fours crawling around and a lot of people that see these other pale humanoid creatures, they say the same things that these things are crawling around on all fours. And I know someone that does another show that I've talked to. He's been in my documentary or whatever. He actually saw one not far from where I'm where I kind of work at. And it just so happens to be along this stretch of river that I did a documentary over. So there's a lot of Native American stuff tied to it as well. Exactly. That's, and that's, that's what gets me too. And, uh, you know, it's that stuff I don't want to mess with, you know? Yeah, definitely. I say, I don't want to mess with it, but at the same time, I think I would, uh, I'm still out looking for it. I want to know, but I don't want to mess with it. Yeah. I mean, if I have to come face to face with it to get my answers, I mean, I will, but at the same time, I would prefer not to be up close and personal with it. But I guess my grandfather back in the, I think it was the 1970s or eighties. I think it was like late seventies. He, uh, he ran up on something around this area where, uh, where we live out here. And he would always tell everybody not to go outside and not to get too far from my house after dark. He would never tell anybody what he saw. Never. And I've heard people talk about that for years. And I've heard people that, you know, they've talked about they've been seeing things and hearing things. And I mean, we've seen things and heard things down here. But I want to know what I'm trying to find out is what it, what it is. I want to know what it is, you know. Yeah. I wonder, I heard this story before the end. I don't know if it was true or why I read it. So it was on some post or whatever, but someone had experienced seeing something years ago and they said it was about eight to nine feet tall. They were going to say it was like a big foot, but they said it was almost like it was hairless. Yeah. And other people were commenting on there that it didn't sound like a big foot or a hairless big foot or anything like that. But some people are saying they saw one of the tall grays, like the tall alien things. Now I've interviewed several people that have saw something very similar. That's very tall, pale, upright, walking humanoid. Yeah. So this isn't an isolated thing. Like it's kind of more people have seen it. But again, I have no idea what it actually is. Cause I even talked to someone before that's seen one they said is very tall, very slender, kind of described it looking like a cream Abdul-Jabbar except it was like a pale human skin thing walking. Yeah. So it's like, I have no idea. No, I mean, there's, I think there's stuff out there that some people is meant to see. Some people are not. And, and you know, if you're, if you're, especially if you're open-minded to it, you know, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna pay more attention to the stuff that's going on around you. Or like I said, where somebody else could just say it was just coincidence or whatever. Yeah. I believe, I believe there's stuff out there. There's definitely something that people are seeing. Again, I have no idea what it is, but I don't think everyone's just hallucinating or making stuff up. Like I think people are seeing what they're seeing, but what it is, I think no one really knows for sure. Yeah. Me and a friend of mine was talking about that. Not, not long ago. We was actually, it was not this year at the big foot fest. Well, I didn't get to go this year, but I went last year. And there's a friend of mine down there. He was your speaker. And I don't know if I can say his name or not. And, but he was, he's kind of the one that put it on down there in Powell County, Kentucky. So you probably know now. And, but me and him, yeah, Charlie, he's a, he's a fine fellow, you know, and me and me and him talks about a lot of stuff like that sometimes. Yeah. I, I've admitted a lot of the shows where Charlie's involved in. So I'll be, I think the next one I'll be at that. I think he's at either the Indiana big foot conference. I don't know if he's going to be there this year. He's been there the last two years and be at cryptid con, which I usually show up, you know, at the, at those two. But like, like I said, this year, I didn't get to go. I had some car trouble and of course, you know, so always something always. So yeah, but yeah, I mean, I just, I just love running through the woods and chasing this stuff or, or in the sky or whatever. I just love the thrill of it. And, and, and I, it's not really the thrill of it. It's the knowledge. I want the knowledge. I want to know what it is. I think that's what a lot of us that are interested in this stuff for it. I know the mainstream media and the mainstream people that don't believe in this type of stuff. They all think we're the crazy people out running around in the woods, chasing monsters. But I think there's a lot more to it than just that. Like I don't necessarily think that what we're doing is really doing any wrong to anybody. It could be, we could be out doing a lot worse when we're not out there cooking meth or whatever. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So, and here's another thing too, is, is I've found, I've found that if you open up and you talk about this stuff, like I said, I've got my own YouTube channel and I do a lot of stuff on, you know, different social media platforms and stuff and people watch it. And when I first started doing it, I was like, man, I don't know. You know, people's going to think I'm weird. And you wouldn't believe that the people that's come forward and said, Hey man, let me tell you what I seen. Or, or you wouldn't believe what happened or so many people, because if, if they know that you're open to it, you'll get a lot more people willing to talk about it. That's the one thing that I think within this community, you're more accepted by your other people in this community. Now there's a lot of drama and a lot of egos involved in the communities as well, but you have that in everything, but this is one of the more welcoming type of a community where for the most part, no one's going to ridicule you or something, unless they're one of those diehard skeptics that are in some of these stupid coalition groups that just want to bad mouth people all the time or find reasons to complain. Yeah. I love to find a good skeptic, you know, like I said, I try and remain skeptical a lot of the time, and I don't necessarily believe in a lot of the stuff that I have experienced. I try and write it off because until I can actually prove it to me, I'm going to say there has to be some sort of an explanation that I can prove, but until I can't prove it, then I'm more open to the idea that it's something paranormal or something unexplainable. Oh yeah, I get it. If I had a chance to interact with a being or a creature or something, one way or the other, I want proof. So I've told people, if I happen to be out in the woods and I see something on a thermal that comes up looking like a big foot, a lot of these people just stand there and try and record. I was like, no, I'm going towards it. Me too. I would do. Yeah. Like they're afraid of like, oh, we're going to stay in here. We don't want to disturb it. No, I'm running towards it. I want to see it take off running and I'm going to still chase after it. Like one way or the other, I'm going to find big foot or whatever it is I'm out there looking for. Yeah. Because I mean, it could just be a bear leaned up on a tree scratching his back or whatever. You know, I'm like you, I want to see it run. I want to watch it. Then it just so happens to start running towards me and it is a bear that I'm probably in more trouble than I wanted to be. But no, Indiana is a constitutional carry state. So for anyone that listens and thinks they're going to go out in the woods when I'm out in the woods and mess with me, just remember that we are a open constitutional carry state. So there's real fair warning. Don't come running up on me. That's one of those things that does work. We were out in the middle of darkness last night and no one realizes how dark the woods are until you're out there. Oh, I know I was out. I was out last night. Actually. I done a video last night from the woods. Yeah. The, the area that we were at, I hope to have the video here by the time this airs, the video should already be done. So I'm going to try and work on it sometime this week to get it out there. But this is a, the first one that we've done for this new thing that I'm trying and it was so dark that the only light we could see from was like my little screen on my full spectrum camera, that was the only light we had to see what was in front of us. So it's just me and another person out there. And I was like, this is straight up creepy because the area that we were at has a lot of, it had something bad happen. I don't want to spoil it, but had something really bad that happened out there and you're not even really supposed to be out there anymore. So we went out there because again, yeah, the bad stuff. So I wanted to see what we could possibly turn up. Yeah. Well, when I go, I usually go by myself and because that's, that's when you'll hear the most that's when you'll hear and feel or see the most when you're by yourself, but you know, I've usually got several about yourself, but, you know, I've usually got several people watching live and to me, when they're watching live, then I'm thinking, Hey, I got people with me, you know, so, but yeah, we, uh, my brother goes with me sometime and, but there's nothing like, I mean, like you said, you get in the woods, you might as well as be in a cave because you can't see anything. Yeah. I don't have the bravery to go out in the middle of nowhere, completely alone. Some of the places I go to don't even have cell phone service. Well, I mean, I don't go far out unless I've got somebody with me because like, you know, you never know. You know, we weren't, we were off and it was on a walking path, but it's still, there's no close road and it's out at least over a mile deep into the woods. So I was like, there's no houses, there's no one here and there's about a 50 to 60 foot drop off on the one side. So there's really no escape if anything ever came out in this way. So I was like, I don't want to go out. Even if I was just to slip and fall, like it's as a, you're lost out here. Yeah. Now, is there anything like what you've done, like when you've been out on some of these investigations or anything, is there anything that's like ever stood out to you that you weren't sure of what it could have been? Yes. I went out, uh, I went out one day and, and I got almost, well, I got past the rock mounds that I was telling you about, and just as I got past the rock mounds and I got out just a little bit farther, I had, I don't know, man, there was a smell that hit me and I've never smelled, I mean, it was just, it's like, I don't know, like a wet dog, I guess you'd say. And, uh, but it was really, really strong and I've got this feeling like it was, uh, I don't know, like a feeling of dread. You've heard the infrasound. Well, I don't know that that's what it was, but that's kind of what people explain, you know, I've heard people talk about the infrasound. It'll make you sick, make you motion sick and all this. Well, that's what I got. I had just real big, like a feeling of dread and it was like something was right on top of me and it actually made me sick to my stomach. And I had to turn around and leave. And by the time I got home, I was fine. And that's happened to me twice out there in the same spot. I talked to someone in person a year or so ago and they're an avid hunter and they went out to the same area that they usually go to and they got over came with a sense of fear. Yeah, I've done that. And they ended up leaving because they said they just felt like there was something watching them and it did not want them there and they were just completely overcome with fear from it. Yep, I've been there and that's the worst feeling, especially when you're out by yourself. Yep. That's what they were too. They're out there by themselves and they've been out there many a time and they just said that there was just something off. They felt like there was something off. They didn't feel right. The whole, they didn't hear anything. Everything was kind of quiet, which was not very normal for the area and just had this overwhelming feeling of dread and uncomfortable feeling and they left. Yep. I've felt that several times, twice really bad, I know of. I've never had that happen, so I can't really relate to it. There are some instances where I do get a little nervous when there's certain things that have went on, but that's a long time ago. I think that was 20 plus years ago. So I think I'm a little more open to the idea and I know a little bit more than when I did then. So I think I'm more, got my big boy britches on now. Yeah, I'm the same way. You know, the older I get, the things like the braver I get. And, you know, I know, I kind of know what, what sounds is what. And, but then when you hear, you know, when you hear a sound that don't belong there, it kind of freaks you out a little bit, you know, especially if you're about by yourself. We kept hearing it clicking last night. I'm pretty sure it was a bug, but it sounded like electrical clicking. You know how like an electric, like somehow you hear like static or something like sparking, you hear that like the constant, yeah. It was that noise, but it was a consistent noise and nonstop out in one specific area. So I don't know if it was the same bird or bug or whatever this was, but there was something in that very same spot as we walked through the woods. It was doing on the way there and on the way back and the way they're in the back, because we went back there twice. Yeah. We went during the day and we went and went during the night. It was still making that sound. So I don't know if there's something in the woods making that noise, but it's very consistent. Well, now it's odd that you say that because I picked it up on a spectrum analyzer a week ago, it looked like a ladder on my spectrum analyzer and it was consistent, perfect. I mean, all the way up and it stayed at one frequency and it stayed. I mean, it was, and like you said, it was just a click and it was perfect. I mean, there was no, there was no, yeah, there was no pause to this or anything. It was just consistent clicking, constant clicking. So again, I, I'm not an outdoorsman enough to know every single sound, but I've lived in this area my whole life. I weren't too far from it. I've never heard that clicking sound like that. I've heard all sorts of like random things, but this was just a consistent thing that went on for about four hours straight. Well, we hear the, well, I say we, I heard one that I was down here by myself and went down over the, over on the right, over where my wife said she saw the thing run into the woods and I was down in there one night and I actually heard a whistle. It was a sharp whistle and it was loud and I got it on video. Actually you got it. I actually let Charlie hear that I went and played it for him. I said, listen to this and, uh, you know, he kind of, he liked it, you know, so it whistled and it waited like five minutes. It whistled again, but it had moved and, and this thing whistled like six times and every time it whistled, it was in a different spot, hit it went all the way around me in a circle. And now that, that was a night that I was really, I was nervous when I walked out that night. I would never go out somewhere alone. If that happened. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I mean, it's like, I tell my friends, I said, you know, you guys, you guys think I'm crazy, but you know, this is just something I like to do now I've got, you know, I'm not saying when I go out, I'm not completely defenseless, you know, like what you said, you know, you don't want to don't run up and scare me in the middle of the night in the woods. That wouldn't be good. So usually when I'm out there, I have my full spectrum camera. I've got my normal cell phone camera that we record with. There's another camera and I've also got a thermal. So I usually try and go with like three people. I think three is like a good number just because I can have one person have one camera, one have a thermal and me having it like that way. There's enough things to be recorded to where someone could be keeping an eye on certain things because you don't even know. And this sounds bad, but you don't even know what people you're going to run into out there. Sometimes they could be doing some stuff that they don't want you to be out there doing or want you to see what they're out there doing. So I'm more worried about the animals and the people than the things we're out actually looking for. It's the things I'm not looking for that I don't want to deal with. Well, I gotta ask you, have you ever picked anything up really good? Uh, there is some stuff in my documentary. Okay. We did capture some things that, and that's been in the trailers or whatever. But is this the one that you just put out? Yeah. The Mississippi triangle. It should be by the time this is released, it should be available on like Amazon and to be in some of those things. I know it was supposed to be getting released here very soon through this distribution company. I have physical copies of it, but we did capture we went out to this one location and we captured footprints on the ground. And the footprints are, I don't know how to like, some of them looked canine. Some of them looked normal. Like the size, I have a wear a size 14, I have a big foot, but they were barefoot and we did this in December. So it was really cold outside, but some of them looked like they had an opposable thumb for a big toe. They looked very like primate. Yeah. And where we live, there'd be no primate here in Indiana. Right. Yeah. So I don't know what would have made those footprints. And someone else has sent me some that they got in the snow that looks very similar to what we captured too. Like they were a large footprint, but it almost had a very opposable thumb type of a big toe. So that was weird. And I got one that where it looked like it was a slip and I found one and it kind of looked like what you're describing. And then my brother, he got footprints of what looked like a hoof. And that kind of freaked me out a little bit. And because it wasn't a deer because it was big, it was huge. And we don't have anything that big, you know, like you said, like in Kentucky, but now it could have been, I don't know. I'm not saying it's not, but it just looked off. And then there, for anyone that ends up watching it, there was a scene that we were walking and it's all purple. We're walking, and it's all purple, so it's through my full spectrum. And we're trying to get through the woods. And we were hearing noises in the woods, and we hear, it could have been a duck, it could have been a fox. We don't know what the actual screech was, but the interesting part about all this is, the entire time we're out there, there's dogs barking. Not one of us remember ever hearing dogs barking, but it was picked up on the full spectrum camera's audio. So we never heard any of the dogs with our naked eye, or naked eye. We never heard any dogs with our ears, but it was all captured on this little recorder's audio, like the video camera's audio. I was like, I even asked my buddy that was out there, I was like, do you remember those dogs? And he didn't remember hearing the dogs either. So it's strange, certain things, we were looking for noise, we heard noises, we were acting to certain noises, we heard the knock, we heard a snap, we heard this random screech, something like a scream, but we never heard the dogs. Like, so I don't know how to, I was like, I don't, what was the dog noises? Like, was this from a house? Like we're out in the middle of the woods, I'm not saying there couldn't have been dogs out there, it wasn't coyotes because they were barking like a dog, but none of us remember hearing any of the dogs, there were like four of us out there, not a single one remembers the dog barking, so we never even acknowledged the dog barking. I was confused when I went back and listened to it. I picked stuff up on mine before that I didn't remember hearing while I was out there, not like barking, just different sounds and stuff. Hopefully on some of the stuff that I'm doing now, I pick up some more things because I plan on getting a few more little gadgets here and there along the way to when I do these little mini documentaries. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do too, just a little bit at a time, I can't afford to do it all at once, you know, so. No, honestly, I had to do a Kickstarter for my documentary, and if it wasn't for the Kickstarter, I wouldn't have been able to get some of the equipment that I did get. Like I would have had my phone cameras and some of the other stuff, a lot of the cool little ghost hunting stuff that I got I wouldn't have ended up getting just because I didn't want to spend the money to be 100%. I was like, I have a job, kids, normal life, I can't just be out blowing money on these things. Oh, I know, I know. I know we're getting kind of close to the time where you said you had to wrap up, so before we do, is there anything else you would like to discuss? No, I think I've pretty much covered everything. I mean, we could sit and talk about this stuff all night. Right, yeah. I said, I know you said you had some things you had to do here in a few minutes, so. Yeah, but maybe we can get back on here and we can do this again sometime. I mean, I've enjoyed it. Yeah, definitely. You said you have a YouTube channel. You want to let the audience know where they can, like what it's called and where they can look it up at? Yeah, I have a YouTube channel, it's just Buddy Isaacs, and you'll see me, I got a big floppy hat on and not like this one, but you can go to there and I've got, a lot of them, everything's not paranormal. A lot of them's just videos that, because I always say that when I get on there and I do these videos, if you're watching these videos and it don't matter if you're saying, look at this idiot, I've got your mind off the world for just a few minutes and that's what my intentions were, so especially the world nowadays, we need to get our mind off of it sometime. Yeah, it's nice to have a distraction every now and then. And I do my lives, I do lives on Facebook on the same thing, Buddy Isaacs, and I usually do them on weekends, usually on Saturday nights. But also, I'm off work this week, so I'm gonna try to do some more throughout the week, this week, and we'll be, and when I do those, I'm in the middle of the woods, so those are my, that's what I call my documenting, so even though I'm on here just talking, I'm documenting. Well, Buddy, it's been a pleasure talking to you. Yeah, you too, man, I appreciate it. Yep, you have a good night now. You too, I'll see you, man.

Buddy: Bye-bye.

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