Ep. 3: Bigfoot Glowing Eyes - Kentucky Goblins

Brandon: Hello everyone and welcome to the show. I'm your host, Brandon Wright. Tonight's episode will be joined by our two guests, Daniel and Brandon. Now, Daniel's from Alabama and Brandon is from Southern Indiana, but they've both been encountering something very similar. Before we dive into their stories, if you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, please send me an email at tinfoiltellspodcast.gmail.com. Again, that is tinfoiltellspodcast.gmail.com and we can try and get something scheduled up for a future episode. We're gonna go ahead and dive on into our story with Daniel. So sit back, relax and enjoy the show. I'd like to welcome Daniel to the show. He's here to discuss some of the encounters he's had in person. So gonna go ahead and turn it over to Daniel, let him talk about his experiences. Daniel, welcome to the show.

Daniel: Definitely appreciate you, brother. Yeah, like I said, it just, September 11th, one of my buddies had invited me out. It was the last moment thing he invited me out. I've been out there in those woods for about since I was 16, I'm 23 now. I've never experienced anything like I have. And anyway, so basically we went out there, jammed out, he's got like big speakers. So, and there's nothing but woods for miles. You walk out there and there's like little, they're like big trees, but they're kind of thin so you can zigzag through them. And basically he had went to bed early. Me and his son stayed out there. And he, I did speak to his son about me being part Native American. I do share the bloodline of the Creek Indians on the Native American side. And he had spoke on something that I've spoke on before. And I've never had nothing happen, but when he said it wasn't a couple, one that I wanna say about an hour cause it was right there at midnight, between midnight and 3 a.m. He had spoke on the word skin and then the last word starts with a W. And that's what I was predicting it could have been, but the way it was giving me the energy and vibes, it may have been a Bigfoot. But anyway, we was sitting there. The first thing that we heard was, we were sitting there playing gets hard and listening to music and we heard something. I don't know if it was, it sounded like it was like taking a tree and just shaking the hell out of it. Whatever it was, was causing a lot of commotion. And it caused us to both go quiet and still. And I told him, I said, okay, I don't think that was a deer. That was way too loud to be a deer and for it to shake tree like that. Well, I went inside to get a flashlight. One of those big ones that can shine pretty good. And I couldn't see anything in the woods. I could see right there from the wood line. And as I was looking, I didn't see anything. So we went back to sitting there for a couple of minutes talking. Well, after that, we heard some type of low type of growling sound. And I was like, okay, maybe this could be a panther because panthers are known in the area in lower Alabama and Glenwood. And well, then all of a sudden we heard this type of scream and the type of scream it had was the best way I can describe it is if you hear deer blow, but you can tell the difference from a deer blowing and it being something else. It was a little bit lower than what a deer would usually blow, but it was like a low type of screaming noise. And I'd shine the light back out there in the woods. And I'd seen like one little glimpse of an eye reflection. So that built up my curiosity, but also kept me on edge because the whole time all this was taking place, I had chills running up and down my whole body and every hair on my body was standing up at the time. Well, he started freaking out a little bit and I told him, I said, well, for one, I don't think it's nobody messing with us because ain't nobody gonna be out there in those woods that late at night. And nobody knows where my buddy lives at in Glenwood. I said, it's pretty far back there in the sticks. And he does have a good sized pond and lakes and streams out there with his house, especially a lot of deer are active around there. And basically between, it started around, I wanna say 1230 and lasted all the way to 3 a.m. We called the last straw basically at 3 a.m. when we were sitting on the porch, we could hear some stepping going on, but it was very faint. Like whatever it was was moving very quietly. It only made that loud commotion at the beginning I guess to warn us. And I feel like there was more, whatever it was, there was more than one of them due to the fact that we heard some tree knocks. And I've been, I do believe there's stuff out there in the woods and a whole bunch of other things that we cannot explain because we have not seen. There's so much of the world that hasn't been discovered yet. And so that what furthermore makes me believe that there's more stuff out there. But anyway, as we was sitting on the porch, it was getting close to 3 a.m. I told him, I said, well, if he was wanting to go inside, I was like, if we hear one more thing or see one more thing, we'll go inside. Like he was starting to get terrified. And I was kind of on edge because I knew that whatever it was, it was big for one, for two, I didn't believe it to be an animal. Well, as we was sitting on the porch, there was a tree right beside the steps. As you go down and next thing you know, we were sitting there, we heard something sounding like it was coming crashing down in the tree or either something had through something. And as soon as I turned to look at the tree and shine the light into the wood base, all I could see was the reflection of these two green glowing eyes. And a lot of people, when it comes to Bigfoot, Skunk Apes, that's why they always report that it has red eyes, but this one didn't have red eyes. It had like green glowing eyes. And I knew it was a predator because usually with predators, theirs are face forward. And whatever it was, I knew it wouldn't know bear because a bear would not be able to throw anything at you like it did. The power and strength that it had to throw it as fast and hard as it did, there was no way any animal around those woods would have been able to do that. And we didn't really get the chance and opportunity to go out there in the morning because my buddy had to leave to go to Florida. I did mention it to him, but the only thing he did was look at me and just smile about it. So I knew he knew that there was something out there in those woods that was unexplainable that he probably kept on the down low. But as I've done research and I've looked up, there is such thing in Alabama, we call it the white thing. And people have made numerous reports of seeing a gray Bigfoot or Sasquatch. And I do believe as they get older, they get just like we do, they start turning gray. And the reason that people may have not found them is because maybe with them being intelligent as they are and being able to be hidden as much as they are, where people can only get glimpses of them throughout these whole years is that they probably do bury their dad once they're deceased, just like we would. I do believe these intelligent creatures do have the ways that we do, but it's just one of the experiences that I've never been able to experience. I've heard people talk about them. I've heard my best friends talk about them and they'd be dead serious about it. And I'm kind of like, and I'm one of those people I got to see to believe it. But after that, I definitely want to say that I'm a firm believer that there's something out there that we're not aware of and not used to.

Brandon: What do you happen to think they are? Like if you had an opinion on the matter, do you think it's like a great case?

Daniel: So that's basically what I want to say it is because like I'm saying, there's so many things out there for one, and people are taking blood from different type of species and combining them and creating so many different off breeds of stuff. You never know what's out there. But when it comes to the one known as Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Skunk Ape, I do believe that's what it is, is basically some type of ape that's mixed with something else, maybe possibly our DNA.

Brandon: Do you think it's just kind of like something from like the evolutionary chain to where it's just kind of like, it's still there. Like we've evolved from that, but like it's still like a split from the evolutionary line. Like from where we went from Neanderthal, they're just like another subspecies of that. like another subspecies of that?

Daniel: Kind of, I do believe I fall on more of that side because I have had friends talk about it. A lot of people in the country that I'm friends with, they do claim to see it and especially here in Alabama where I live. I want to say I was in Kenneka and Pike County so, but I've also heard near Evergreen, Alabama or Greenville, Alabama. That's what those cities are normally known for is Bigfoot sightings. And I've heard people tell stories about it. They describe it when they see it. I've actually had some buddies who proclaimed that they've actually seen it face to face. And it's one thing they said is they got the same feeling I got which I still get chills from it even just thinking about it from the days that it's passed on because it's something I've never seen before.

Brandon: Did your friends happen to mention like facial structure? Like if it looked more like primate or if it looked more human? Cause I know there's quite a bit of different encounters where people have different descriptions of some say they look more like a human. Some say they look more like a gorilla. So it kind of makes you wonder like if there's just different ones like different types of species of them offshoots.

Daniel: I do believe with the way that they do, I do believe that they communicate just like we do. They are, they have a mating call. I've watched the Bigfoot series on all that. I do believe that they have their own cause, their own everything but when it comes to facial structure and the species I do believe that there's different species of them. The ones that I've been known to been told about is they do have a large nose kind of like a gorilla. A silverback gorilla would have. And I've also been known that there's different furs or they're whatever they have. I've heard some of them say they look like they're wearing ghillie suits because the fur on them is so long. I've heard orange, I've heard brown, I've heard black. I've heard some of them look like they just have moss hanging from them because their hair's so long.

Brandon: It's an interesting topic just because like there's been so many encounters from different people throughout the years but it's so hard to get any tangible proof of it. It's like if there's a body somewhere how come it's not been reported? Like you mentioned they could bury their dead and then with all the hunters and everything else it's just kind of, it's just still strange to me that there's a big upright walking creature and for whatever reason there's no definitive proof out there and when there is it's always questionable because that's how society's been programmed to be now. It's like when you see evidence or everyone, oh, that's fake. You could have an actual legitimate body brought up and someone would be like, oh, that's not, that's just a costume.

Daniel: Exactly, and I do believe that. I do believe the reason that when evidence does come about the reason that it gets silenced is because the government and everything doesn't want us to know what is completely out there and for the people who say, oh, it's just a costume, it's just this and that. For me, for them to believe it I believe they're actually those type of people that are non-believers or say that it's fake and all this. I believe that they've never experienced anything like it or that they don't live in the woods because that's one thing that I've come to learn is when it comes from most of your sightings it's majority of your people who live out in the country who sees it.

Brandon: I think that's what the stigma comes from too is the people from the cities and the bigger areas and stuff like that they look down upon the country folk because they think we're, I guess not as educated as they assume they are but they're not out in the world to see what's going on out there. They're all stuck in their own little concrete jungles. So if you ever had a chance to actually see one in person would you want to?

Daniel: Oh, yes, I would actually, it's not that I would love to learn the ways of how they act because it's a different species than something that we've never seen before. I do believe that it would share this. I do believe it would share the trace between us and the ape generation but actually being able to see one up close and personal I definitely would, I do plan on if I get the chance to go back out there this weekend because I have been told by a good buddy of mine who lives in the same area that I do that he has also encountered a lot of them behind his house because he lives in the sticks out there and he's learned the ways of them. He said, usually when they travel he said they'll migrate every three to five months. And he said, usually they don't travel alone that could come from why I heard three knots coming from three different directions. And also the way that people has been telling me the reason that they do that whenever humans are around is not necessarily to get our attention. It's more to draw us away but also communicate with ones that are nearby. I actually had someone that had a good predicament. They said the reason that this one could have been making so much noise. The one that I actually seen the eyesight of was he was trying to get my attention to draw me away from looking in one direction. So the other one, if there was any other ones they could possibly run across the wood line to get to the side that he was on.

Brandon: Now with the eyes, were they glowing or was it like a reflection from lighting that would have caused it to glow? Cause there's been multiple reports of always eye shine and everything, which I'm not a zoologist or anything but I don't think I didn't, I don't believe that primate eyes like reflect like a dog's eyes or a cat's eyes. I thought their eyes would just be kind of like what ours would be. But there've been lots of instances where everyone reports his eye shine that they see out in the woods. So it's just kind of strange. Exactly.

Daniel: And that's the one thing that was hard about it because like when I looked at it, it was like there was no, it's like there was an eye reflection whenever the light hit it. And I'm surprised that I couldn't see a figure with it. I could only see the eye shine in it, but they were like a, to me it looked more like a lime green tint color. But it was so hard to really see. And I actually sat there and was looking dead at the eyes for a good couple of seconds before they just closed and vanished. I didn't hear no walking. It just, it's kind of hard to explain the way the eyes kind of favor because I've heard so many stories about them reflecting off as coming off as red eyes and then some of them reflect as like a green color. But when it comes to that, I would say I definitely knew the way that they reflected that it was not a, it wasn't a bear. It wasn't a coyote. It wasn't anything like that.

Brandon: You had to guess how high off the ground do you think the eyes were?

Daniel: Those trees out there are pretty good size. So I at least want to say anywhere from up there into the nine range because when I seen the eyes, it wouldn't know we're low, low to the ground. They were pretty size up there on the tree line.

Brandon: And about how far apart do you think they were? A few inches or?

Daniel: Let's see. I want to say from that picture that I basically posted that everyone's seen, I want to say it was more than what a natural human or any animal would be from a decent size for whatever it was in there that was out there in those woods when it comes to the eyes and everything. I want to say there was at least a good bit far apart from normal of what I'm used to saying. Yeah.

Brandon: So there are a lot of people, at least from what I've seen and listened to, like the reports of the eyes shine and everything. To me, that's one of the creepier aspects of it is because where do they go from there? Like you see their eyes and then they just vanish. Like some people actually like hear the noises, they follow the tracks and then they just stop. It's like, where do these things just disappear to? Exactly.

Daniel: And that's one thing that I try to figure out is I don't know if they're able to move so quietly that they're able to get out the sight of the light. But when it comes to the whole eyes shining thing and everything, I just know when the light hit it, that's when I seen it. And for a second, I had to actually go back. Like I almost missed it. When I was scanning over, I just happened to see two little green dots flowing little green dots growing at a good size and height. And then like, I had to scan right back over it. And I was like, and it made me freeze. And when my buddy's son was asking me, what was I seeing? He knew whatever I seen basically shook me up because I was standing there still. And it was just, even though I went face to face with it, it's the fact that I was sitting there looking it in the eyes. It was looking dead at me. I was looking dead at it. And then all of a sudden it sat there for a good couple of minutes and then just disappeared. But a couple of moments before that, we had it to where I was shining because I heard something and I looked and I could see something in the woods and it looked like it was walking. It looked like it was walking, but I couldn't see the figure of it. I could only see the eyes and the eyes were going up and down. Like you could see the head motion of it. And they was just watching me the whole time. And it looked like it was walking at a horizontal sideways thing, just staring at me as it was walking before the eyes just disappeared. So when it comes to the whole eyesight of how they just randomly disappear, I don't know if it's something to do with their eyes or if they actually, it's because they turn their heads or either close their eyes or something like that.

Brandon: Yeah. Well, it's definitely one of those encounters me personally, I would like, I'm kind of jealous because I'd love to experience something like that and actually see it because I want to believe, but I'm almost like you is where I have to see to a hundred percent believe. Exactly. I've seen certain things that I can't explain, but try to tell that to other people. And you're all just going to get the little snickers and the laughs and just like, oh, this guy's crazy.

Daniel: But I do want to say that I do remember back in my high school days, I think the first encounter with something that favored a Bigfoot type of deal was when I did go in the woods, it was me, my sister and her boyfriend at the time. We was riding in a forest, riding the trails out there in his truck, drinking beer and just listening to music when we happened to take this one turn that led us deeper in the woods. And when we came around the corner, we had to stop and literally back up because there was this, I don't know if it was, it looked like a tent or a house that had been built out of sticks and woods. It was like a slope, you had the back slope and then it was just like sticking up to where you knew something was staying there or nesting there. But that's the only time I'd ever seen something like that and that's what made me think that there was something out there in the woods that was not animal like, that could actually build stuff like that.

Brandon: Yeah, I definitely think there is something out there that we don't know about. I can't say one way or the other what exactly it is because I don't think anyone 100% can. I think everyone can make their own assumptions, but there's just too much evidence that people write off that kind of show that there is something out there, whether they choose to believe it or not, that's their own prerogatives. But I do want to know more about stuff that goes on in life than I guess the average person does because I continue to look into this type of stuff, so.

Daniel: Exactly and I mean, that's like, you're gonna have the people that wind up saying, oh, it's fake, oh, it's lying, oh, they're gonna wind up like 99% of the people that wind up reacting to my post and it's crazy how far my post went because I live in South Alabama close to the Pensacola line and it's crazy how fast my story had actually hit Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania. I actually had some people contacting me saying that I needed to remove my post. They were stating that Bigfoot was real, but they'd rather him to be left alone and I kind of just brushed that off because I'm the type of person to where if I see something, I'm gonna be dead honest about it and tell it how it is. I mean, what do you gain from really lying? Nothing really, especially in the line of work that I do, there's no reason for me to lie. I've already said where I'm at. So if I see something unexplainatory or something that gives me the chills, I'm definitely gonna put it out there.

Brandon: Yeah, I believe that. There's definitely people that just do it where the attention is a joke and everything else, but it's the people that have the credibility of why would you come out and just make something up? What type of notoriety are you gonna really get from being known as the crazy person that believes in a Bigfoot? Yes, I. Well, Daniel, I appreciate you coming out, being on the show. And if you do go back out there again, definitely make sure to take something with you for protection, because.

Daniel: Oh yeah, I usually take a nine millimeter everywhere I go because that's just for me being, I used to work corrections and then volunteer reserve deputy. So I'm used to carrying everything, but I do plan on going back out there this weekend to walk around during the day and also walk down by the lake to see if the pond that my buddy's got to see if I can find anything footprints, anything to where something's run through the woods or possibly a nesting ground or anything. I'm definitely looking forward to doing that and then staying out there during the night through the same time and actually taking the time to, because my buddy has like these big giant speakers where you could put on a full concert and I'm hoping to go out there and do some of the Bigfoot calls on that to be able to attract them back towards us because I still believe they'll be in the area still because of the pond that he has and also how much deer we have around that area.

Brandon: Yeah, if you happen to catch anything, definitely send it my way, I'd love to check it out.

Daniel: Heck yeah, man, definitely will. All right, well keep in touch

Brandon: and again, thanks for coming on the show and keep safe out there. All right, you too, brother. Thank you. Yes, sir. It definitely sounds like there's something strange going on in the woods of Alabama, that's for sure. We're gonna switch focus now and jump over to our interview with Brandon. So again, Brandon's from Southern Indiana around the Kentucky border and he's experienced quite a few things down in this area. So sit back, relax, let's take a listen. I'd like to welcome my guest on the show tonight. Brandon, welcome to the show. Thank you. Well, I can see, I've seen you've been like a squatching and hunting and everything else and just kind of take my interest about if you've had any actual encounters cause we're both are actually from Indiana as well.

Brandon (guest): Well, that's wonderful, I've lived all over but yeah, I was born here in Southern Indiana. Yeah, have you had any many encounters in that area? I've had encounters with Sasquatch and I've had encounters with other cryptid creatures that I can't explain what they really are. And I also do paranormal investigations and I've had some dealings with that too. And I mean, I've done a little bit of everything.

Brandon: What's like one of the most interesting encounters you've had?

Brandon (guest): Well, I've actually had that encounter on three different occasions. It actually involved my whole family. We used to walk every night around town here and we'd go to the graveyard late at night around midnight or so and we'd mess with spirit box. We left graveyard one night we was walking there was me, my wife and six kids. And we started down this little side street behind the graveyard there. And my stepdaughter stopped us and she said, what the hell is that? And we all looked and there was like four or five like golden looking creatures and they would run on four legs and then they stop, stand up and look at us on two legs. And then they would run on four legs. And I mean, there was four or five of them. And so we hightailed it out there. And a couple of nights later, I got curious and I said, well, let's go back down there and see if we can see them again. And so we headed to the graveyard and we standing in their graveyard. The graveyard, there's a hill and it looks down to a grassy knoll like and right next to the grass is a wood line. to the grass is a wood line and there was a deer standing there in the grass eating and and all of a sudden one of them creatures come out of the woods grab that deer and drug him into woods and uh we all again how I tell it out there we come straight home got the pickup truck and we drove back down there just to you know see and uh of course the deer was gone and uh and then uh the third time we seen the creature me and my son we started walking down that hill and all of a sudden we seen yellow glowing eyes they were running up the hill after us and we assumed it was I mean it was real they were real low the ground uh we assumed it was one of them creatures we couldn't see it real good that night uh it's kind of dark but uh all we could see was the red glowing eyes and it was low to the ground kind of like like it was running on all fours coming after us so and then just last night we had an encounter we we'd in the woods uh me and my scorcher partner joe byer we we were in the woods there and uh we I heard this crashing through the brush and I told joe I said something just ran through the the woods there and there was a big tree down we was in like a dry creek bed and a big tree down across the creek bed you have to walk up a bank and go into the brush and I've kind of cut out a trail because I've been back here so much but uh we walked through the brush and walk around the tree and get back in the creek and then you walk from there you walk down the creek a little bit you got like a log you got like uh walk down the log up to another level on the creek bed so we walked up the log and as soon as I hit the top of that log I look over to the right of me and I see two glowing eyes they're about nine ten inches apart and uh I posted the video there on Facebook it's uh we actually captured an amazing it sounds to me like a female call uh it came through it wasn't the greatest so I had to enhance it with a uh app on my phone I got an app on my phone and I enhanced the audios and I mean if you listen it's right at about 30 seconds to about 37 seconds it's a long call it uh you can hear it they're pretty good good now after I went on there and straighten it up a little bit that's amazing um so that was just happened

Brandon: last night you got that call yeah that happened last night because last just last week I was

Brandon (guest): in there with a couple and we we kind of got a little scared a little freaked out we was back in there and uh we saw well I heard I heard a whoop and I told the the couple other than I said I heard I just heard a whoop and uh so we we exited the creek bed into the woods and when we went into the woods the the female we were she said stop she heard something walking to the left of us so we stopped and I've got a little monocle that you know for hunting that you see it sees in 100% darkness so I went to look around there and we thought we saw two figures behind a tree peeking out at us and of course we looked and we stood there and we watched for a minute and all of a sudden they disappeared they weren't there anymore so I said all right well let's press on we we started forward maybe I want to say 30 feet wasn't very far went about 30 feet and I looked to the left of me and I see these glowing eyes and they were every bit of a foot apart and they started out at about 120 yards away from us and we watched and we stood there and we watched and the female agreed she saw the eyes right away the her husband he I guess he had burned his eyes welding or something and uh he said he could see you know real great so he he didn't see the eyes at first and we the more we stood there I noticed it was it was kind of belly crawling like towards us it was it was coming to us and we stood there and we you know uh we watched and I mean this thing got within 60 yards of us and at that point her husband could even see them eyes because they were so close you know and I I we all kind of freaked out we didn't know what to do we thought maybe you know at that point it looked like it was stalking us because it you know it was down low belly crawling you know and it was it was trying it's it's it's uh hardest to get close to us so I told you know I made a judgment call which I've had a lot of flack drums on on on there on Facebook about but you know I guess you'd have to be in that situation uh but they I mean we made a judgment call and we took a shot now we didn't shoot at that creature nobody you know I posted it on the video or on uh Facebook and I never said we shot at the creature we shot above its head and it was just enough to deter it from coming any closer and it done just that we backed out there and we got out of the woods and we called it a night you know uh but I mean but then last night I told my buddy Joe my my scratching partner because he wasn't with me that night he was working I told him I said we need to go back in there I said for one I said I need to go back in there for me because if I don't I may never get the courage to go back in there again you know I mean that that was kind of freaky and uh that you know so I went back in there last night and sure enough we get in there we wasn't in there 15 minutes and we see some eyes and and then we caught that female call now in my opinion they were surrounding us last night there was we heard a female call and then we had one pinned down in the woods there I'm pretty you know I can't tell you you say you live in Indiana well we don't have hogs we don't have bears I can't tell you anything any other animal in the woods that's going to have eyes nine to ten inches apart or and that one the other night I seen he he had the eyes it was every bit of a foot apart you know I I you I can't explain to you what a kind of animal that would be you know about how hell if the ground were the eyes would you say if you had to guess well this one was in the brush now he was hunkered down and we could seen every once in a while he ducked down you know like like we you know he was trying not to be spotted but I mean it was too late we done spotted him so look at my I use a spotlight and it's really bright and it just lights him eyes up like you're you know tomorrow and he uh like I said he you know he was hunkered down every night he was crawling so uh he was real low he was he was you know uh I like said you now we can watch him he turned his head and he blinked his eyes I mean we sat there and watched him for the longest time now he was more out in the open than that one last night was that one last night he was down in the weeds but then like I said we had him pinned down and all of a sudden we hear that female call come from one side and then we hear another call coming in from behind us and we we decided at that point that we we best go back to the front of the woods there and uh uh you know we went back up there and then we started making some calls and stuff you know we're a little safer where we had to get out of there we went deep back in there you know what do you happen to think that they actually are

Brandon: do you think they're uh like a primate or do you have any ideas you know the first night

Brandon (guest): I seen it if you had had asked me I would have told you it was a dog man because I found some big dog prints back there but now that I'm you know now that I've had time to calm down and you know really think about it I really think it might be Sasquatch and I've actually cast two tracks back there a different time of the year and one of them was in October it snowed the night before and we found that track matter of fact my six and my seven year old were with me when we found that track and uh like I said that that track there was in the middle of briars in the middle of October and it snowed the night before so you tell me who's walking he'd tell me who's walking around out here in Bearfoot in the middle of briar bushes. Oh, and to the left of that footprint was a trail that went up to where you wouldn't have had to go through briars. Now, I ain't the brightest kind in a box, but being a human, if I'm walking through the woods, Bearfoot, and I got a choice to go through them briars or take that path to the left that didn't have any briars, I mean, I'm probably going to take that path to the left. So, um, like I said, I, I casted one of them, uh, and it turned out good. I casted both of them. The first cast was the first cast I'd ever casted and it, it turned out like hot garbage. I ain't going to lie about it, but the second cast turned out wonderful. And I learned some things after the first one, you know, uh, I learned to take a torch and burn all the leaves and stuff out of it. And I did that and it turned out great. So, uh, and I added a little more plaster than I did the first time. It was a little thin the first time and it started crumbling on me. And that's probably the reason it didn't turn out real well. But I mean, it's all, you know, it's all you learn on the go. You know, it's not, we do this stuff, but my main goal ain't to go out here and kill Sasquatch or anything like that. My main goal is to prove its existence. You know, I want to prove that he's real real. There's so many naysayers, you know, but, you know, sometimes I wonder and I'm wasting my time because, you know, we, even if you, you can bring all the footprints you want, you can have all the sounds you want, but, you know, until somebody finds a body there, you know, there's going to be them naysayers.

Brandon: So I think even if someone brought a body in, there would still be others who still would say it was faked just because that's just the mindset of most people, they don't want to think that something like that really exists when you talk about that.

Brandon (guest): And then you got big dummies like them two guys down here in Georgia that took a pig carcass, put it in a freezer and told everybody it was a big foot. That makes people like us that's trying to do this look bad. You know, I mean, like we're idiots, you know,

Brandon: so, yeah, people were in it for everybody. So, yeah, they do.

Brandon (guest): And, you know, but I want to encourage everybody to get out there. You know, you, you can't find the evidence sitting on your couch. You got to get out there. You got to get in the woods and yeah, there, there might be scary times and you know, there might, but don't let it, don't let it deter you, you know, like I said, if I'd done that, I wouldn't have been back out there last night, but you know, that's, that's the spirit in me. I guess I, I just can't let something like that get me down. Yeah.

Brandon: I've never actually been out in the woods hunting anything like that, just because I'm not so much of an outdoors person, I like to think I was, but I've never been a hunter or anything like that. So I'm more of a, not so much a city boy, but that type of lifestyle,

Brandon (guest): I guess, but like I said, you know, we went in there 15 minutes last night. So we, you ain't got to go very far in, you know, if you're in a good spot and you know they're there, you don't have to go far in, they'll come to you, you know, but, you know, like I said, I'd like to encourage everybody to get out there and, and let's prove that these things exist. Let's prove the real, you know, on a bigger scale, you know, I sent, I talked to a friend of mine, we're in Kentucky. He's with the BFRO and I sent in or asked him, you know, who I could send that call to you last night to get analyzed and he sent me a guy to talk to you there, I sent him a message, you know, and I tried to add him on Facebook there, but I don't know if he ever, he didn't ever respond. I don't believe, but I mean, I'm trying to, you know, we're trying to do this the scientific way, get it done, you know.

Brandon: Sometimes I wonder if, even if there was proof like that, if the, and I don't want to go off like conspiracy land or anything like that, but I feel like the government has to know these things exist and there's a reason why they don't want people to release information about it. Cause at some point you think someone has come across the body or come across more tangible evidence that could prove the existence of something. But for whatever reason, every time there's evidence or photos or anything like that, it's always blurry or it's just like a foot casting or something that people can easily were just right off as fake because without an actual physical body, it's kind of like, everyone's just going to say, Oh, you're just faking stuff for attention or anything like that. Which again, that's the stigma that comes with people that look into this paranormal type stuff. No one wants to accept it.

Brandon (guest): Well, you know, somebody asked me the other night, it said, well, do you think like this show Expedition Bigfoot is real? You know, I actually was told like, you know, I went to Waverly Hills, you know, and I'd done some paranormal investigation and, and they, they told me, you know, like Taps went out there and they said, well, Taps is more TV oriented, you know, but the ghost adventures, they really do what they do. And, and, you know, I get that thinking about that. It doesn't matter who you are or what you're doing. If you, whether you're trying to do it for TV or whether you're not, if you go to some of these locations that they go to, they're bound to have things happen to them. I mean, and, and that's what I'm saying. If you really disbelieve and you want to know if it really exists, get out in the woods at night. See, see what you see, you know, I mean, you may go one place and not see nothing, but if you go somewhere where somebody's told you they're sighting that you best be ready. Because I mean, even if you're not trying to find them and, you know, how could you not, you know, you can, if you go to these locations and they're prime hotspots, like, so let's just say Yellowwood up here in Indiana, uh, Yellowwood state forest is the number one sighting place in America or in Indiana. Uh, how could you not go up there and not have some kind of experience, you know? I mean, I just don't, you know, like I said, I, I encourage everybody to go out and, and find your own evidence, you know, you don't believe it's real, then go out and find it.

Brandon: Years back, we were camping out at a place is always supposed to be considered really haunted up in the area that I live in. And I've actually been out there with a group of paranormal investigators who their meters were going off and all sorts of stuff. The little flashlights came on, but I didn't actually experience anything. I didn't see any, you know, I'm one of those types of people that I'm not going to say, I don't believe in stuff, but I always remain a little skeptical. So if I don't actually see something that I can put my own eyes or determine that there's something actually there, it's kind of like, well, maybe there's like a magnetic field from something that just causing these little meters to jump around or something like that. But when we camped out there, we did hear some strange noises, but other than that, like you don't see it. We didn't hear it. Like there's nothing that I saw. So who could have said it was just some like raccoon or opossum or who knows what a deer walking through the woods. We just heard some crackling here and there. It wasn't anything like we can say was a spirit or a Sasquatch or anything like that. But other than that, like I said, I haven't been out in the woods too much to have my own sort of experiences with that. Right, right.

Brandon (guest): Well, you know, again, like I said, you don't have to go far in, you know, if you're in a good spot and anybody else that does this can tell you if you're, if you're in a good spot and you're at the right location, you're bound to have some kind of experience, you know, I mean, aside from having an actual sighting, you know, I'll tell you what I done and it, it made a big difference for me. I actually went on a VFRO expedition and you can go online on the VFRO website and pick any state that you live in and you can, you know, type in that state and it will tell you when their expeditions are and how much, well, no, you have to call most of the time to figure out pricing and stuff on the, on the expeditions. But I mean, I'll tell you what, that, that was actually, it was a great time. It was five days long. We went camping and we went into, I went, I went on a Kentucky Bigfoot expedition and I met some really cool people and saw some really cool evidence and heard lots of cool stories. And, but by the time I left, you know, there was no doubt in my mind, you know, I was true believer to start with anyway, but I mean, when I left, there was definitely no doubt, you know? There's definitely no doubt, you know, so, um, I could recommend that for anybody who, you know, wants to experience a really cool time and, and maybe, you know, see the, you know, more scientific side of it. And it's like, cause I mean, they had speakers come in every night at campfire and book writers and I mean, all kinds of stuff is it was a really good time and, and you aren't a lot.

Brandon: So I kind of want to go back to the first encounter you talked about. You said you'd seen something kind of look like, I think you said golems or something like that. So do you, did they have like any type of fur? Or was it kind of like a skin color or anything that you can be descriptive of because I, sorry, go ahead. No, what I was going to say is I've heard stories and stuff about Kentucky goblins and I know you're down on that Southern part. And I've actually got a painting on my wall that one of my mutual friends had done, he kind of an artist and he does all sorts of cryptid stuff and he actually has something for the Kentucky goblins. So I actually bought one off of him, but I know down in that area, they claim that they come from the caves and they're the descriptions and everything in my opinion always come off as kind of like the Lord of the rings golem looking thing or whatever. And when you said that, it kind of made me wonder, I was like, I wonder if that's kind of maybe the same thing that you saw was kind of what all these other people down around Kentucky's mountain areas are seeing.

Brandon (guest): Honestly, I have to wonder if that guy that wrote the Lord of the rings or, you know, made that movie has either done some research on that type of stuff or whatever, because that's exactly what it looked like. They were, they were about three and a half foot tall, maybe I want to say three and a half foot tall. And, uh, I mean, they looked just like that. They had, they were skin colored, uh, no fur and, uh, long fingers. Uh, yeah. I mean, like I said, it, it almost makes you wonder if that guy done some research himself, you know, before he ever wrote that movie. Yeah.

Brandon: There's a lot of stuff that, uh, I think that some of the things that these artists and writers and everything, I think it's all stuff based off of what they've heard over the years from other people. They've used that as inspirations and all sorts of things. I think Hollywood has a way of showing us some stuff without coming out and telling us, Hey, this is exists. Like, Oh, this is all fantasy. But I think there's a little bit of truth mixed into some of the stuff they use for inspirations. That's, that's just one of my harebrained ideas. I can believe it.

Brandon (guest): Cause like I said, what I saw with my own eyes, my whole family did. Um, and we saw more than on one occasion. Uh, that's what they look like. They look just like what, what, you know, on that movie, uh, as, as the Golem, they look just like that. Maybe, maybe a little shorter because the one on there was pretty, you know, like five or six foot tall. But the, the ones we see were like three and a half foot tall. Now I will tell you, I've done some research, um, but not your typical research. Uh, I actually consulted a Ouija board, uh, on, on the matter and the Ouija board, uh, told me that they were supposedly, well, not supposedly there is right behind the graveyard. There's a junkyard and supposedly the inside the junkyard, there's a portal to hell and supposedly what the Ouija board told me was that they are the keepers of the gate, basically the gate to hell. That's crazy.

Brandon: Um, I've never messed with the Ouija board. I'm not really a religious type of person, but I've always been type of person like, well, if something like that exists, I don't really want to screw around with it because I don't need any spirits or anything like that. Follow me around. I've got my own bad luck. I don't need to make more for myself.

Brandon (guest): Well, you have to do it safely. I mean, that's for sure. You know, you can't get to get on there and, you know, all willy nilly and just, you had to be safe about it and well, I mean, you know, you could, you could take it with a grain of salt, what it says sometimes, but I mean, that's what it told me. And I mean, I was curious, you know, I mean, I've seen these things on three different occasions, or, you know, my whole family did, and I wanted an, I wanted an answer, you know, and I mean, I don't, you can't just go out and ask somebody because I mean, people don't really know, you know, when it's like a, you know, you could go ask people about Sasquatch all day and, and you get a hundred different answers, you know, that, you know, have pertained to a hundred different things, you know, and that's what I'm saying. Nobody really knows. So I mean, I, I went, you know, one night we were messing around with the Ouija board and I decided to ask you what the creatures were, you know, so.

Brandon: Yeah, there's a lot of theories, kind of what they are. I know the common term, they call them like goblins and this and that, but a lot of people seem to think they come from the cave system. Like they're just creatures that evolved and dwell in the caves and they come out at nighttime scavenge around for food. Like I know there's a bunch of cave systems down that way with the mountain ranges and stuff too, and the Ohio Valley and stuff, the Appalachian mountains and everything. So like I said, I'm, I'm not a know it all. I don't, I'll straight up admit, I don't know hardly jack shit about stuff, but when it comes to seeing things, to me, I've looked for plausibility and why couldn't something live in the caves that we don't know about? Because it's not like we go in the caves all the time. You know what I mean?

Brandon (guest): Well, now I will say, yeah, I know what the Ouija board said, but our first thought was that they live underneath the street here because I live right in town, you know, and this happened right in town. It's, you know, I'm, this wasn't in the woods. It was right in town next to a grade school. Uh, and right where we saw them is, is like a sewer ditch, you know? And, um, then there's a little creek that runs into that ditch. And I, I don't know. I mean, I kind of assume that they lived under the street, you know, somewhere. And I think, you know, what a lot of, you know, what a lot of it that I've seen looks like is the rake, what they call the rake and I've actually seen like there's a video online on YouTube of the rake and it's in like a, you know, a street sewage pipe, you know? So I don't, you know, I mean, that's just what we assume, but we don't really know, you know,

Brandon: I can see if something like that did come from a cave system. It's kind of find other places to live. And if it needs food around a town is the best place to find food. If there's other people around and stuff like that. So I could see it living in a sewer or a drain pipe or something like that, cause it's closer to what it normally would be living in. So that makes sense to me. Right, right.

Brandon (guest): And we did, me and my son, we, we actually did walk down that creek and we found a, like a three-toed track that, you know, it didn't look like a, any type of bird, you know, it wasn't skinny three-toes. It was more like fat three-toed. So, you know, I mean, it, you know, if it had been skinny, I would've said, oh, that's just like a heron or something, but I don't, I don't know it, it could have been something, you know,

Brandon: I'm actually pretty sure that they say that they do have three toes. Like, I think that's one of the common things is they say they're three-toed, which if you saw tracks that even lends more credibility to the idea that that's all the same creature that you saw that what other people have been reporting. Yeah. Yeah.

Brandon (guest): Like I said, there's, and the thing was, like I said, there was more than one of them, you know, the first time we saw them, there was more, there was like four or five of them. I mean, uh, I mean, we were, we didn't know what I think, you know, we didn't know what we just saw, you know, and, and then the more I thought about it and I'm like, well, I want to see that again. So we started, but now we'll say, I haven't seen them in a couple of years, uh, but I don't walk the way we used to, uh, I hurt my back here a while back, but we used to walk every night, you know, and now we don't do that. So, uh, but now, now it's a, it's, I, I focus more on the Sasquatch thing now. Yeah. I understand that.

Brandon: Well, I do appreciate you come out and sharing some of your stories. I know you wrote a book and we've only got a few minutes left to time. So if you'd like to take the last couple of moments to talk about your book real quick and go ahead with that.

Brandon (guest): Um, I wrote a three, a three short story book. Um, I wrote a three, a three short story book is called dreamscape horrors, uh, and it's a, it's a pretty, you know, it's a, it's a short book. It's only like 80 pages, but if you want, if you, if you're looking for a good short, you know, spooky read, uh, and these are some of the things, you know, some of the things in these books, you know, it's, it's based on basically nightmares. Um, like what, you know, if you just think of all the, the bad nightmares you ever had and you woke up right before you died, came back to finish the job, uh, that's this book. And, uh, that's basically where all three stories are based on dreams. So if you guys want to get a short story, you know, horror book to read, uh, you can find it on Amazon on paperback, hardcover and Kindle. And, uh, also you can find my website at www.dreamscapehorrors.com. Uh, everybody check out my book. I think he, you know, if you, if you're into horror and you want like a short read, it's not going to take you a year to read it, then this is the book for you. Okay.

Brandon: Well, again, I do appreciate you coming out on the show and, uh, good luck out there and be safe. All right. Thank you, buddy. Yep. Thank you. Have a good night. And that's our show everyone. Again, if you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, please contact me at tinfoiltalespodcast.gmail.com. That's tinfoiltalespodcast.gmail.com. You can find us on all the social medias. Also, if you'd like to help the show grow, please share it around. Any help is greatly appreciated. Again, thanks for listening. Good night, everyone.